EU elections, Dutch component, plus UK 7-party debate on BBC this evening

The Guardian

I’m glad I voted after all. The ones that did, like me, even if they considered not voting, like me, helped achieve that narrow lead. #notinmyname

Later followed by this, also in the Guardian:


This evening is also UK election debate. I wonder if the BBC will stream it on YouTube. Let’s find out…

Yes, streamed on site.

Yuck, weasel Farage, been hiding under a stone for so long, has popped up again. Mordaunt looks tired. Never seen her look this tired before.

Yes, Penny (Conservatives), re laughing stock.

Yes, Carla (Greens), this election – more than ever, perhaps – is indeed about what kind of country we want to live in.

No, Angela, bringing up the non-dom issue in response to questions about the NHS is bollocks. Shameful! That’s almost like Theresa May.

Malarkey, Nigel.

Oh, Penny messed up? Portsmouth already had a dentistry department at the university, but I may have misheard.

Angela is basically just as big a disgrace as the Tories. And she is modulating her accent on purpose. Wow.

Lorenzo Barba, member of the public, doesn’t want immigration? No, he wants responses.

Thank you, Stephen!

Malarkey, Nigel. Malarkey.

Thank you, Rhun!

Penny sayin’ this from a town that was and is built on immigration, also from within the UK, that migration is too high. Portsmouth would collapse without the money spent there by its high percentage/number of mostly very highly educated foreigners.

Thank you, Carla!


Side note: fact checking going on in the background.

By the sound of it, Wales and Scotland still remain the brains of the UK, which is reassuring.

There’s not enough difference between Labour and the Conservatives.

As evidenced by how similarly they went at eachother?

(Penny’s lost her edge. OMG. I’ve seen her at the Guildhall in 2010 or thereabouts. She was so much more impressive then. I had to admit that she came across as highly capable. She’s lost that. At least during this debate. Makes sense. Back then, the sky was the limit. Nothing to lose. Now she has nothing left to lose and nothing left to gain. She’s going nowhere.)

Nigel is just calculated hot air. It’s just words, no substance.

Wow. The applause so far goes for Green, SNP and Welsh views. (Welsh=Welsh Labour, Plaid Cymru)

Penny dodging the question, like so often.

Thank you, Mishal, moderator. (Repeatedly)

Apparently, Rishi Sunak makes 30 million from his investments, not 2. (Gary Stevenson initially thought it was 3, then corrected it to 30. I assume he’s correct.)

Nigel remains just another Boris.

Carla, yes, it’s called dithering and it’s bad for businesses when they can’t plan.

Penny, you’re lost. It’s hilarious how she deliberately tries to channel Theresa May and appear prime ministerial and then goes off the rails again.

There they go again. Angela and Penny show they cannot govern the country.

Carla, you should have had that number!

Dang, Nigel gets applause for stop and search.

Lower crime numbers do not represent less crime, just fewer people reporting crime.

Many young people don’t feel safe, agreed. Which is why many carry knives.

Many older adults don’t feel safe. Many women don’t feel safe.

Police have not been investigating most crimes for a long time. I doubt that job satisfaction among police officers has increased under the Tories.

Angela turns up her accent again during her final statement.

(It obviously plays no role for Wales and Scotland.)

Carla!!! You mindreader! 😁

(I suppose that’s why I was a member of the Greens for a while. I’ve been saying that Labour and the Conservatives are too alike for years. Yes, it’s gotten worse under Starmer.)

I agree with Wales needing to be taken into account.

Ha ha, Penny.

Nigel, fighting for ordinary people? Since when?

THE END

And that’s when I realized that I don’t think I have said anything about the Lib Dems…

Also, can people in England vote for Plaid Cymru or the SNP? I don’t know.

I assume that the BBC will have the video of it up soon and then I will post it below.


8 June 2024

The BBC has only published bits of it on its YouTube channel and so have other channels.

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The Guardian calls Farage a confident speaker. Yes. It’s Boris Johnson’s style. It’s not suitable for anyone seeking to lead. Other than that, yes, indeed, he was on the fringes of the action, mostly piping up as if he were entertainment in a break.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/07/everyone-struggled-to-be-heard-in-this-seven-way-televised-brawl

So it’s still about who shouts the loudest? I hope not.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clddkpy66eno


And here below we have a former political journalist from the BBC (Sr True Dedication) trying to achieve the opposite of what Rayner and Mordaunt seem to want. Apparently, half the world is having elections this year so half the world is determining what kind of leadership it wants.

Feel free to share your opinion below, please.

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